0695 Sheet – Supreme Court Georgia Appeals of Leo Frank, 1913, 1914

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next day. If Mary Phagan left home at 10 minutes to 12, she ought to have got to town about 10 minutes after 12, somewhere in that neighborhood. She could not have gotten in much earlier. The time that I saw her is simply an estimate. That was the time my car was due in town. I remember seeing her by reading of the tragedy the next day. I didn't testify at the, Coroners inquest, because nobody came to ask me. No, I have not abused and villified Frank since this tragedy. No, I have made myself a nuisance on the cars by talking of him. I know Mr.Brent. I didn't tell him that Mr. Frank's children said he was guilty. Mr. Brent asked me what I thought about it several times on the car. He has always been the aggressor. As to whether I abused and villified him in the presence of Miss Haas and other passengers, there has been so much talk that I don't know what has been said. I don't think I said that if he was released I would join a party to lynch him. Somebody said if he got out there might be some trouble. I don't remember saying that I would join a party to help lynch him if he got out. I talked to Mr. Leach about it. I don't remember what I told him. I told him I saw her over there about 12 o'clock. That was the time the car was due in town. I know I saw her before 12.05. My car was on schedule time. I couldn't swear it was exactly on the minute.

HENRY HOFFMAN, Sworn for the state in rebuttal.
I am inspector of the Street car company. Matthews is under me a certain part of the day. On April 26th, he was under me from 11.30 to 12.07. His car was due at Broad. and Marietta at 12.07. There is no such schedule as 12.07 1/2. I have been on his car when he cut off the Fair St.car. Fair Street car is due at 12.05. I have compared watches with him. They vary from 20 to 40 seconds. We are supposed to carry the right time. I have called Matthews attention to running ahead of schedule one or twice. They come in ahead of time on relief time for supper and dinner.

CROSS EXAMINATION. I don't know anything about his coming on April 26th. We found out he was ahead of time way along last March. He